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Ra_  
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 More options Jun 20 2008, 1:37 pm
Newsgroups: alt.org.toastmasters
From: Ra_ <mkleino...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:37:44 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jun 20 2008 1:37 pm
Subject: Proposal for Competent Evaluator track
Toastmasters all surely value effective evaluations and excellent
feedback. I propose the development of the "Competent Evaluator"
track. TI is missing a formal education and recognition program for
development of evaluation and feedback.

Please join in let's get TI to add this worthwhile program. We need
your help to brainstorm and design the program: This has evolved into
a 2 part track, "Competent Evaluator" and "Advanced Evaluator".

Next steps include

1. Drafting outlines of materials for the manuals. The manuals need to
have evaluation/feedback forms for the evaluator, lots of advice, best
practices, hints, tis and resources.

We need to explain how these processes will benefit people beyond
Toastmasters in their lives and professional careers.

2. Draft requirements for each track.

Proposed Competent Evaluator requirements:
- have completed CC
- Evaluate 10 CC manual speeches (no more than 3 for any speech
project type and must include a speech project #9 or 10)
- Evaluate an educational module presentation
- Present "Evaluate to Motivate"
- Serve as General Evaluator 3 times or more

Advanced Evaluator requirements:
- have completed Competent Evaluator
- have evaluated an additional 3 speeches outside home club
- have evaluated 2 advanced manual speeches
- have presented "the art of effective evaluation"
- Serve as General Evaluator at 2 outside clubs
- Evaluate at least one activity for each of the 10 CL projects

This discussion is being don in detail on Toastspace.com or contact me
matt...@kleinosky.com if you have comment or would like to join in the
effort. coming soon: http://CompetentEvaluator.info


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Mark Perew  
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 More options Jul 1 2008, 7:59 am
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From: Mark Perew <pe...@bokbok.squeep.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:59:53 -0400
Local: Tues, Jul 1 2008 7:59 am
Subject: Re: Proposal for Competent Evaluator track
Being able to give a competent evaluation is a critical skill.  The art of
finding the right words to say to both lift and redirect an individual is
one that is sometimes done well, but mostly done not so well.  Wouldn't it
be great if we could all give and receive only the best evaluations.

If we had the best evaluations, then we would know clearly what was expected
of us, where we had done better than expected, where we still had room for
growth, and have a strong vision of how to get there.

Having said all that, it strikes me that a strong evaluation is a mix of
good communication and good leadership.  TI already has tracks for both of
those subjects.

Rather than just being abstract communication or abstract leadership, the
area of evaluation is an applied craft where both of the realms of TI
overlap.  We know what to say and how to say it, we know how to present a
vision and motivate others to persue it.

In short, I think TI is already doing much of what needs to be done.
Creating a new track would not be a benefit and would confuse the
understanding of what is required to be a good evaluator.

Ra_ <mkleino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Toastmasters all surely value effective evaluations and excellent
> feedback. I propose the development of the "Competent Evaluator"
> track. TI is missing a formal education and recognition program for
> development of evaluation and feedback.

--
Mark Perew  <pe...@squeep.com>
To the world you may be just one person,
but to one person you may be the world.      (Source Unknown)
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

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John Fleming, DTM  
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 More options Jul 1 2008, 10:02 am
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From: "John Fleming, DTM" <nos...@sprynet.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:02:32 -0600
Local: Tues, Jul 1 2008 10:02 am
Subject: Re: Proposal for Competent Evaluator track
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:59:53 -0400, while chained to a desk
in the scriptorium Mark Perew <pe...@bokbok.squeep.com>
wrote:

I agree with you Mark.

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John Fleming, DTM
Edmonton, Canada

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     cannot make one.  He would have to ask an
     engineer to do it for him.

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The Doctor  
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 More options Jul 1 2008, 12:24 pm
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From: doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:24:54 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Jul 1 2008 12:24 pm
Subject: Re: Proposal for Competent Evaluator track
In article <h3ek641mbe6kv3hmvsb7g55s2pao6vn...@4ax.com>,
John Fleming, DTM <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote:

Has anyone ever read the Competent Leadership manual in full?

You will find some pointers there.
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This is doc...@nl2k.ab.ca      Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca
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Top Poster  
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 More options Jul 1 2008, 12:47 pm
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From: "Top Poster" <Top Poster@ Poster.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:47:07 -0600
Local: Tues, Jul 1 2008 12:47 pm
Subject: Re: Proposal for Competent Evaluator track
Did it tell you how to castrate gays? like you want to, you must be the
toastmaster poster boy LOL

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Joy  
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 More options Jul 1 2008, 1:41 pm
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From: "Joy" <toas...@real-me.net>
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:41:09 -0700
Local: Tues, Jul 1 2008 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: Proposal for Competent Evaluator track
So do I.

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Joy

If you don't have a sense of humor you probably don't have any sense at all.

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