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Re: [ Cloud Computing ] Cloud to suck money out of market, report says

2009-11-20T18:47:48Z

@Tim,

While I worked for a technology company, I didn't hold a technology job per
se.

As to the value equation, perhaps. I'd say that it's more of a cost
equation than one of value.

While we as consumers make cost/quality trade-offs, I saw less evidence of
that in outsourcing. The cost side was scrutinized much more closely, and

Re: Beyond IT/CC - Interesting applications of Computing

2009-11-22T07:25:28Z

Looks this fund invests mainly on mature projects. Don't know if there
are some investors who are willing to invest on really early ideas.

Education with simulations could be an ongoing effort forever. It also
asks for resources when growing with complexity. People could start
with simples, say for elementary school students first, then for

IBM - Inventing BlueMatter!

2009-11-18T19:55:14Z

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Beyond IT/CC - Interesting applications of Computing

2009-11-19T21:08:35Z

Ray,

Remember your post/concerns about IT coming to an end with CC.

Here are couple of articles about where we are headed beyond IT.

I find these application of computing lot more interesting and innovative
than traditional IT stuff anyway.

[link]

Fw: [ Cloud Computing ] Cloud to suck money out of market, report says

2009-11-22T04:25:30Z

@Jim S.

MySQL, for example, had a low end product
Constriction breeds constriction.
A small-mind breeds small-thinking.
If you don't see enough room, or if you don't see enough opportunity,
you're not going to try too hard, if at all.

From outside it seems luck.
Sure there is one way to call it.

Adding resiliency to Clouds

2009-11-16T20:48:01Z

Hello,

Fujitsu just did a press release on adding resiliency to Enterprise
Clouds. You are welcome to have a look at:
[link]

Kind regards,
Matthijs van Waveren
Fujitsu Systems Europe Ltd

Call For Proposals - Cloud Slam 2010

2009-11-21T02:44:04Z

Do you have a story to tell about cloud computing? Did use of cloud
transformed how you operate?

We invite you to propose a presentation for Cloud Slam 2010 — either on your
own or as part of a panel of institutional or inter-institutional
colleagues.

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Call For Proposals - Cloud Slam 2010

2009-11-21T02:42:36Z

Do you have a story to tell about cloud computing? Did use of cloud
transformed how you operate?

We invite you to propose a presentation for Cloud Slam 2009 — either on your
own or as part of a panel of institutional or inter-institutional
colleagues.

[link]

Re: [ Cloud Computing ] component/tool for eucalyptus platform

2009-11-21T02:28:15Z

If you really want to make a name for yourself work on making Eucalyptus scale to multi-cluster.

Best of Luck,

Ray Nugent

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Jonas,

One of the things missing from Eucalyptus (as far as I know...) is a

RE: [ Cloud Computing ] Cloud to suck money out of market, report says

2009-11-20T16:37:53Z

“Simply put, it's a value equation”

Yeah!...you said it….simply put. Very simplistic thinking…What is value?...

For instance, China can perpetually keep the value of its Yuan low and
consequently its goods and services will be low.

So the VALUE EQUATION has been skewed/changed heavily. China has been doing

Re: [ Cloud Computing ] Clould computing and outsourcing

2009-11-20T15:29:17Z

An ALM solution. Indeed. Would that be:

*Alm* may refer to:

* An alpine pasture </wiki/Alpine_pasture>
* Alm (river) </wiki/Alm_%28river%29>, Austria
* The protagonist of Fire Emblem Gaiden </wiki/Fire_Emblem_Gaiden>
* A stadium in Bielefeld, Germany, see "Bielefelder Alm

RE: [ Cloud Computing ] Cloud to suck money out of market, report says

2009-11-20T13:59:08Z

Almost true - for straight commodities, we go for price. For everything else, price is only one factor, and as you say, overall value is the main point.

The big off-shore question is whether software engineering is a commodity or not. No need to debate that here, as it's a subjective issue, but an interesting one.

RE: [ Cloud Computing ] component/tool for eucalyptus platform

2009-11-19T21:21:33Z

Jonas,

One of the things missing from Eucalyptus (as far as I know...) is a
chargeback scheme. I would think anything along those lines would be
interesting, starting with a basic usage accounting mechanism. Something
that lets the admin see that user m or group n has "consumed" x instance

Re: [ Cloud Computing ] Cloud to suck money out of market, report says

2009-11-20T05:56:03Z

That is true that some technology jobs have been sent offshore. However, that tide is changing. As global labor rates start to equalize, the attractiveness of offshoring will wane a bit.

It's also important to consider why jobs are sent offshore. Simply put, it's a value equation. If you can do the same thing for less, why wouldn't you? We do that in our everyday lives. We make value decisions on where we purchase products and services.

RE: [ Cloud Computing ] Clould computing and outsourcing

2009-11-20T04:18:04Z

One way to do this is to take a look at some reasonable definition of CC
like NIST ([link]), and
see how closely your application or what ever you are deploying meets the
definition criteria: Essential Characteristics, Service Models & Deployment