>>> Conceptually, I agree.

>>> The numbers, well, I'll leave that to others more expert in these
>>> matters, though suffice it to say that $250k for a startup investment
>>> seems a bit high to me particularly nowadays with tools such as cloud
>>> computing and the wide availability of virtual resources.
>It isn't remotely realistic.  Computing resources are not a significant
>>expense for startups.  Salaries and health care costs are.  $250K
>>doesn't cover two loaded individuals even at subsistence salaries.  It
>>probably covers one real salary and change.

>>> I could be wrong, but I doubt anyone is rejoicing in your failure.

>>> You point out something interesting.  Each merger and acquisition (and
>>> cloud computing) is followed by layoffs and cuts.
>Cloud computing has an insignificant effect on head count.  The systems
>>need just as much administration in the cloud as they would on physical
>>servers.  Buying out software is a different matter, but that's not a
>>new issue.

>>> Since replacement work for that talent base is currently low.  Do you
>>> think innovation and new startups will be the result? (Even without
>>> the $250k investment)

>>> -Ray

>>> P.S. Didn't realize you were in Rocklin, CA (I'm in Folsom)

>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Miha Ahronovitz

>> <myinnervo...@gmail.com <mailto:myinnervo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>     The conversation is about who bought whom. VMware bought SpringSource
>>>     and CloudFoundry. Dell bought Perrot Systems. We talk why and how they
>>>     complement. Then we speculate about who might buy whom. EDS might buy
>>>     CSC. Or maybe IBM buys Amazon. Or maybe Microsoft merges with Amazon,
>>>     not Yahoo!

>>>     We go over an over on how the new enlarges older companies will
>>>     deliver a better services to the customers. On how they will become
>>>     dominant and will survive.
>>>     The net results is this: every merger is followed by layoffs and cuts
>>>     in product lines. We ask questions, in the name of progressive
>>>     evolution, of what we shall cut next .
>>>     This reminds me a joke. In 2050 the news headlines are : "First
>>>     settlement on planet Mars established !"   and  "Texas executed today
>>>     its last citizen"

>>>     There is no company creation. All the masses of technical experts are
>>>     back to school or drifting. The word "single consultant" is a
>>>     glorified synonym for "unemployed"

>>>     Something is not working in America.

>>>     New ideas will come alive with new companies creation. We don't have
>>>     wait for the behemoth like Microsoft to IBM and HP and even Dell to
>>>     revolutionize the cloud landscape and lay off even more people in the
>>>     name of good. Why would Microsoft start something so risky, when
>>>     simply releasing Windows 7 will bring them all the billions in world?
>>>     Why HP must buy IBM or vice versa, however improbable this be, to
>>>     watch new development?

>>>     We concentrate the power in fewer hands and watch impotently .We have
>>>     no more room to show our ideas work will triumph

>>>     My intent to do something by starting a petition at
>>>     http://www.change.org/actions/view/revive_the_high-tech_start_up_on_s...

>>     , has the staggering number of 43 signatures. I am grateful to each
>>>     and everyone of them. For the skeptics on this group, probably they
>>>     rejoice in my failure so far. They have common sense and are educated
>>>     people. But education insists in accurate detail and detached
>>>     "objectivity", which serve only to paralyze  the individual's project
>>>     of self-realization and action in the world

>>>     I don't have common sense and I will continue to believe that times
>>>     for IPO and new start up explosion  will come back

>>>     Miha

>>> --

>> Ray DePeña
>>> Director, Stealth Startups
>>> Strategic Business Advisor

>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/raydepena
>>> Sacramento, CA 95630
>>> (916) 941-5558

>--
>>Jim Starkey
>>Founder, NimbusDB, Inc.
>>978 526-1376