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Stan  
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 More options May 20 2002, 4:10 pm
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.excel.worksheet.functions
From: "Stan" <swilli...@andrulis.com>
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 13:07:31 -0700
Local: Mon, May 20 2002 4:07 pm
Subject: moving linked files without losing location of links
I have created files with links to lookup tables.  When I
move the files and the tables to a new directory the links
have to be re-established each time I open the
spreadsheet.  How can I get the file to "remember" where
the tables have been moved.  I save the file after re-
estabishing the links, but still have to re-establish the
links each time I open the file.

Has anyone been able to solve this frustrating
problem??????????????


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todd  
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(1 user)  More options May 20 2002, 4:20 pm
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From: "todd" <todd.fri...@exeloncorp.com>
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 13:16:53 -0700
Local: Mon, May 20 2002 4:16 pm
Subject: moving linked files without losing location of links
Did you do this "move" while both the child sheets and the
parent sheet where open.

Try it with everything open and move them at the same time.


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Stan  
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 More options May 20 2002, 4:42 pm
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From: "Stan" <swilli...@andrulis.com>
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 13:40:40 -0700
Local: Mon, May 20 2002 4:40 pm
Subject: moving linked files without losing location of links
I just ried that by "save as" to another location for both
open files and it does not seem to work.  I still have to
identify wher the linked files are located.  But thanks
for the try.


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Harlan Grove  
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 More options May 21 2002, 2:56 am
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From: "Harlan Grove" <hrln...@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 23:53:35 -0700
Local: Tues, May 21 2002 2:53 am
Subject: Re: moving linked files without losing location of links
"Stan" <swilli...@andrulis.com> wrote...
>I just ried that by "save as" to another location for both
>open files and it does not seem to work.  I still have to
>identify wher the linked files are located.  But thanks
>for the try.

>>-----Original Message-----
>>Did you do this "move" while both the child sheets and
>>the parent sheet where open.

...

Let me guess at the exact steps.

You started with, say, C:\X\Y.xls, then you moved this workbook to
D:\Z\Y.xls. Then you opened C:\A\B.xls, which has links to C:\X\Y.xls, which
no longer exists. Excel prompts you if you want to update the links. You
click on the Yes button. Then Excel displays the File Not Found dialog since
it can no longer find C:\X\Y.xls. You navigate to and select D:\Z\Y.xls and
click OK. Then you open D:\Z\Y.xls, thinking that the links in C:\A\B.xls
now refer to D:\Z\Y.xls. They don't! Look at the links in C:\A\B.xls -
they'll still refer to C:\X\Y.xls.

You're better off NOT updating links when you open the workbook containing
links. Instead, immediately issue the Edit > Links... menu command, then
highlight each file in the source file list and click on the Change
Source... button. Navigate to and select the workbooks containing the lists
you want to link to. When done changing the source files, save the workbook.


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Stan  
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 More options May 21 2002, 8:10 am
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From: "Stan" <swilli...@andrulis.com>
Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 05:07:46 -0700
Local: Tues, May 21 2002 8:07 am
Subject: Re: moving linked files without losing location of links
Thank you, thank you, thank you--works fine.

to C:\X\Y.xls, which
>no longer exists. Excel prompts you if you want to update
the links. You
>click on the Yes button. Then Excel displays the File Not
Found dialog since
>it can no longer find C:\X\Y.xls. You navigate to and

select D:\Z\Y.xls and
>click OK. Then you open D:\Z\Y.xls, thinking that the
links in C:\A\B.xls
>now refer to D:\Z\Y.xls. They don't! Look at the links in
C:\A\B.xls -
>they'll still refer to C:\X\Y.xls.

>You're better off NOT updating links when you open the
workbook containing
>links. Instead, immediately issue the Edit > Links...
menu command, then
>highlight each file in the source file list and click on
the Change
>Source... button. Navigate to and select the workbooks

containing the lists


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Jeff  
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 More options Aug 23 2002, 3:48 pm
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From: "Jeff" <dadov...@obsports.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:36:20 -0700
Local: Fri, Aug 23 2002 3:36 pm
Subject: Re: moving linked files without losing location of links
Along these same lines, is there any way to do a "relative" link or
reference, similar to what you would do with a web page, whereby, you would
basically tell Excel to "look for" the file to link to in either the same
directory that the current (linked) file is in, or one or two levels up?
Does this make sense?  So that, using the same file names from below, you
could move Y.xls and B.xls to the same directory, setup the links, then move
both of the files to D:\Z\ directory and when you open B.xls, still have it
refer to Y.xls, because it is in the same directory still?

Does this make sense?

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Harlan Grove  
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(1 user)  More options Aug 24 2002, 12:33 am
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From: "Harlan Grove" <hrln...@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 21:23:06 -0700
Local: Sat, Aug 24 2002 12:23 am
Subject: Re: moving linked files without losing location of links
"Jeff" <dadov...@obsports.com> wrote...
>Along these same lines, is there any way to do a "relative" link or
>reference, similar to what you would do with a web page, whereby, you would
>basically tell Excel to "look for" the file to link to in either the same
>directory that the current (linked) file is in, or one or two levels up?
>Does this make sense?  So that, using the same file names from below, you
>could move Y.xls and B.xls to the same directory, setup the links, then
move
>both of the files to D:\Z\ directory and when you open B.xls, still have it
>refer to Y.xls, because it is in the same directory still?

>Does this make sense?

...

Makes sense, is perfectly reasonable, and it just can't be done in Excel. A
*LONG* time ago Microsoft wrote the original Excel version 1 for 512K Macs.
Those beasts had a nonhierarchical file system and mostly only one floppy
drive and no harddrive, so there could only be one file open with a given
base filename. And Microsoft decreed this was Good & Sufficient, and it
hasn't changed at all since. Yes, all OS's under which the most recent 3 or
4 versions of Excel runs now have hierarchical file systems spanning
multiple local and networked drives, but Microsoft seems not to care to
expend the resources to bring this bit of Excel functionality out of the mid
1980's.

Excel's external reference syntax/semantics preclude you from having more
than one file open at a time with the same base filename. When the file is
open, *only* the base filename in brackets appears in the external
reference. When the file is closed, Excel prepends the drive and full
directory path to the bracketted base filename, where the drive and full
directory path are where that file was more recently saved or accessed,
whichever is more recent. It's that rather braindead semantics that makes
Excel so much more difficult to work with than 123 or Quattro Pro or
StarOffice Calc or . . . These other spreadsheets let you enter relative
paths like

+<<..\foo\bar.123>>A:A1..A:A1    (123)

and they will leave the path-and-filename as-is. Excel simply hasn't evolved
from its original implementation in this respect. It's nice to imagine
Microsoft fixing this, but it probably won't happen until well after they
provide built-in support for flashing text. Microsoft seems to prefer adding
eyewash to adding serious features that have been in competing spreadsheets
for over a decade.


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Stephen Dunn  
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 More options Aug 24 2002, 11:45 am
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From: "Stephen Dunn" <st...@btinternet.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 16:36:16 +0100
Local: Sat, Aug 24 2002 11:36 am
Subject: Re: moving linked files without losing location of links
Hi Jeff,

As Harlan says, unfortunately you can't just have a relative link.
However, you don't have to edit the links manually.  He does hit the
mark, but just in case you missed it in his diatribe:

Open both books, and the link becomes relative.  Now save the linked
file to the new location, close it and the link in the remaining
workbook is automatically updated to reflect the change, now save that
book to the new location.  Then delete the old files.

Steve D.

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