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GROSVENOR FAQ!! WARHEIT!!

William Grosvenor <intergr...@grosvenor.net>

"You don't have to be nuts to be William Grosvenor,
but if you weren't, who'd recognize you..."

GROSVENOR FAQ v0.5, 11/15/96
compiled by Tim Nye

v.05a, 10/26/97
minor updates by Seven of Thirteen

This FAQ is an attempt to assimilate the Wit and Wisdom of one William
Grosvenor aka William Gruber aka Acumen aka Echte Wahrheit.

This FAQ may be freely distributed. (In fact, it makes a great .sig
when replying to Mr. Grosvenor's Usenet posts...)

So now for the questions. Quoted text is indented and references are
noted in brackets (e.g., [1] ) and are listed at the bottom of this
document.

Who Is William Grosvenor?
-------------------------

Let's let Mr. Grosvenor start things off [1]:

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WILLIAM GROSVENOR

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Member ID#: 0160059
Member Since: January 02, 96
Gender: Male
Age: 56 Years (as of January 1996?)
Address: Alberta, CANADA
Nationality: British
Birth Place: UK
Profession: International Management Consultant
Education: P.mgr., Fic, Fiaa, Cga
Hobbies: Stamp Collecting
Computers
Travel
Likes: International correspondence
Dislikes: Faggots, policical correct vermin
Wants to be
Friends with: Both Male and Female from Age 25 to 65 years
Relevant: Have lived and worked and owned businesses
throughout Europe, coast to coast in North
America,
as well as in several countries of se Asia
EMAIL: some...@somewhere.com, or odess...@direct.ca

A few observations can be made at this point. First, while he resides
in Canada, he claims British citizenship (although he has also claimed
Canadian citizenship to a different audience [24]).

Second, he claims to be an "International Management Consultant", but
professional reporters have been unable to find any clients of Mr.
Grosvenor's 'firm'. [25, 26]

Third, his intolerance and bigotry starts to show, e.g., his dislikes
are "Faggots, policical correct vermin".

He Dislikes "Faggots"???
------------------------

As we shall see, he seems to hate just about everyone, but, first a few
select quotes from Mr. G on the topic of homosexuality:

You are obviously a diseased faggot, yourself dying of AIDS.

Your lies will probably cause your diseased brain to accelerate
the death you deserve.[2]

AIDS is definitely one of Mother nature's best ways to select
only the fittest of the species of mankind to survive.

However, do not forget that AIDS is almost exclusively a
LIFESTYLE
CHOICE of those perverts who indulge themselves as faggots.

AIDS was deliberately spread worldwide by the Canadian faggot
with Air Canada. This is irrefutably documented in the book
"AND THE BAND PLAYED ON". {note: this claim has been refuted [4]}

Hopefully, all those diseased vermin will soon die, so that the
rest of humanity can go back to doing their normal activities.[3]

As for faggots, they serve no useful purpose on this earth, and
only in cremation, will their ashes serve some use as
fertliser.[31]

Actually, I am very careful with whom I do business.Fortunately,
faggots do not seem to be involved, yet, in the stamp business,
so I don't have to deal with any.

Sorry, but I reserve the right as to whom I will deal,and faggots
are not approved by me.[5]

After all, nature created only two normal sexes - male or female.
If you say that you are neither, then you obviuosly are not
human.

As for the other terms used by and for the perverts, that is
their choice.[6]

It looks as though you have more than the normal share of gall.
But then, one must expect perverts to be abnormal,and even
subhuman.

The only good faggot, is an incinerated one. Verstehen Sie?[7]

Just because there have been criminals, and perverts throughout
history, does not legalise these offensive vermin.

The best way to get rid of these perverts, is extermination, by
whatever method the state prefers to use.[8]

Further, in many civilised nations, such as Singapore, Malaysia,
and Saudi Arabia to name a few, sodomy as practiced by faggots
is a criminal offence, with punishments as prescribed by law.

In Muslim nations, the qu'ranic punishment is usually stoning to
death.

I would suggest that these perverts should be eliminated in a
more
practical method for the needs of normal society.

Suggestions would include:
medical experiments for treatments using new procedures;
medical experiments for new drugs and treatments;
target practice for the military and police recruits;
target practice for victims to use, in preparing warning
videos to present to children, to show that the
penalty for crimes is death.These would be
similar
to the Malaysia & Singapore programs "DADAH IS
DEATH"[9]

These extra benefits for their faggot friends were brought to
you by Herr Stein/Rock, Gray/Graustein, and Kaplan among others.
They were strongly supported by major members of the World Jewish
Congress, who feel that faggots deserve special rights and
privileges, just as in Sodom and Gommorrah!!![10]

The Jews Are In On This Too?
----------------------------

And then some, e.g.,

Why are the JEWS allowed to break the laws of sovereign Quebec?

Did they terrorise some government officials, or were officials
otherwise induced??[11]

So why should the JEWS be allowed to break the provincial laws?
Other religions, such as the majority Christians, must obey the
law, so why not the damn JEWS?[12]

And don't forget that the forerunner organisation of the KGB was
set up by that Polish JEW Louis Dzerzhinski, who helped elimiate
all opponents to communism in the USSR, including the mass
extermination in Ukraine in the 1930's!!!Ther NKVD/KGB were and
are mainly JEWS,still.[13]

It seems that Ostrov just doesn't believe in telling the truth,
which seems to be a failing of those of the Jewish persuasion,
and their lackeys.[14]

What special JEWISH ARITHMETIC is used to increase several
million dollars to SEVEN BILLION?

Is it this special Jewish Arithmetic that increased the
International Red Cross figure of 320,000 to the now fictitious
figure of six millions?[15] {note: the IRC refutes this claim}

If being Jewish had nothing to do with the biggest tax scam in
Canadian history, then why is it the biggest tax scam in
Canadian history?[16]

Note that not all Jews fit the slimy description, since there
must be some good Jews.[23]

I suggest that you MUST consider the ethnic treatment of Chinese
by thecommunist Canadian government, vis a vis, the white JEWISH
BRONFMANs.[17]

Grosvenor's A Racist, Too?
--------------------------

Yep. Racist and all-around bigot. For instance:

The JEWS think they control Canada, but I believe it is now about
time for the whites in Quebec and Canada to start to clean their
countries.[18]

In view of last night's riots in Montreal,and the comments of
M.Parizeau regarding Jews and natives,responsible travellers
should seriously consider whether it is safe for non-frenchies
in Quebec.

If you must visit Quebec,be sure to bring your flak jacket.Guns
for self-protection are not allowed in communist Canada,since
our government wants only criminals and natives to have weapons.

In other words,much of Canada is no longer safe for foreigners
who do not speak with a Quebec French patois.[19]

Cretin is kissing the asses of the frogs in Quebec,and also those
of the native homelands.[20]

Quite frankly,I doubt that it will have much impact on North
Americans.It will reduce the numbers of Poles,Ukranians,Russians
and the like who to many Slovaks, were undesirables in any
case.[21]

Yes, my articles are definitely racist.

You bet, the above points may seem racist, because the JEWS
claim to be a race, not that they are, and the Chinese are now
being victimised to make up for the frauds of the JEWS.[22]

Is There Anyone Grosvenor Doesn't Hate?
---------------------------------------

Surprisingly, there is. After extensive questioning, he came up with
this list:

Obviously I do not hate Chinese, Malaysians, Singaporeans,
taiwanese, Germans, Iranians and Iraquis, to name just a few
of the groups of people that I respect.[23]

However, so far he hasn't come up with a rationale for this choice.

Ironically, Grosvenor's buddies, the Ghermezian brothers, who we'll meet
later, are originally from Iran. Of course, given what they did to him
in court, Grosvenor obviously has a lot of respect for them.

Anyone Else?
------------

Mr. G also harbours an active dislike of immigrants, especially those
with criminal records, e.g.,

What about the almost 6,000 MINISTER'S PERMITS given out last
year to unqualified people,admitted as so-called immigrants?

This included more than 1,500 convicted criminals, which Canada
apparently prefers to good workers or investors!!![32]

As though Canada has not enough criminals, the communist
government of Canada wants to IMPORT MORE!!!

Many of these were of course from Russia,and many were involved
in serious crimes there.

Why should we be bringing in more criminals, when they are
already a serious problem here?[33]

Of course, the irony here is that Mr. G himself *is* an immigrant with
a criminal record.

He's A Criminal?
----------------

Yep. Convictions in Canada for both assault and extortion [26]. His
criminal record before first immigrating to Canada, if any, is not known,
although he changed his name from Gruber to Grosvenor not long after
first arriving in Canada.

After First Arriving In Canada?
----------------------------------

According to Alberta Report[26], Grosvenor first arrived in Canada in the
mid-1960s. Grosvenor himself has claimed the year of arrival to be 1965,
probably from Newcastle, England [27].

Where he was in the 1970s is something of a point of contention. For
instance, Alberta Report quotes Grosvenor as claiming to have been a
consultant, "processed for top secret and military security clearance,"
to the prime minister of Malaysia.[26]

Grosvenor has made a number of other claims about this period, such as:

I am a former Consultant to the Prime Minister of Malaysia in
Finace, Planning, and Economic Development.

Further, in the past I was an official of the Governments of
Indonesia and Taiwan,in Indonesia.[28]

I was a Senior Official of the Government of Malaysia. Further I
was an Official of the Governments of Taiwan, and of Indonesia.

As a consequence, having lived and worked in S.E.Asia, I have
some feeling for residents of these areas.[29]

yes, I have been an official of the Governments of Malaysia,
Indonesia, and Taiwan.[30]

By the way, I am NOt a student. When I was in Malaysia, I was
a professor, trying to instill some knowledge in capable
students.[31]

So "professor", just how _does_ one spell "finance"? (Note that
Grosvenor
has refused repeatedly to give details of these positions.)

According to Alberta Report, Grosvenor then reappeared in Canada about
1980 in Edmonton, where he has resided until the present. [26]

However, Grosvenor disputes this record. For instance:

More lies from the damn JEWS. Since I am a Canadian, I did NOT
immigrate tqice, as the liar claims.[24]

If he didn't immigrate twice to Canada, he must not have left in the
1970s as he has claimed. Also:

I have been a professional accountant in Canada for more than
30 years,including consulting on Canadian taxes.[34]

If we are to believe Grosvenor when he says he came to Canada in 1965,
and if we believe when he says he has spent "more than 30 years" there,
we must come to the conclusion that he has been in Canada continuously
from 1965 until now. So, how could he also have lived in Asia, as he
claims:

First, I have lived and worked in S.E.Asia, in Malaysia,
Singapore, Indonesia and Taiwan.[35]

Who knows? Maybe he's soooo schizophrenic that one personality remained
in Canada while another chose to live in Asia (and who could blame it for
wanting to get as far away from Grosvenor as it could...).

Hold On Now. He's a Foreigner, Yet Complains About Canada?
-----------------------------------------------------------

Uh-huh. Here's an example:

If you have any sense, you should seriously consider and AVOID
CANADA!!

AVOID CANADA has continued to show that the risks, and costs
of going to Canada will result in a much reduced lifestyle,
compared to living in Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore or other
civilised country.

AVOID CANADA details the fact that now in Canada faggots have
special rights. This means that if you do any business with
the government, you MUST hire faggots,even if with AIDS,no
matter about the risk to the lives of yourself and others.

AVOID CANADA has been presented from the perspective of an
immigrant,since I am one.I lived and worked in SE Asia, in
Malaysia,Indonesia and Taiwan,and understand the important
values of those who succeed.

AVOID CANADA is concerned about traditional family values,
while Canada being communist(have you already forgotten that
former PM Trudeau studied in Moscow), wants to destroy the
traditional family.That is why they give special rights to
faggots and similar perverts.[36]

One thing to note is that even though Grosvenor claims here to have
lived in S.E. Asia (supporting the theory he immigrated twice to
Canada), he also claims that living in Canada "will result in a much
reduced lifestyle". One wonders why he moved back, in that case.

In any event, Grosvenor's unhappiness with Canada has led him to
lay out plans for his own country, "Canada West", or more commonly
called "Grosvenor-Reich", details of which can be found on his
homepage [37].

Setting aside the issue of whether this foreign national lobbying for
the destruction of Canada is an act of treason or sedition, it turns
out that Grosvenor-Reich would not be the paradise Mr. G expects.
For instance, from his "Immigration Policy":

IMMIGRATION will be strictly regulated. Only persons useful to
the economy of Western Canada will be admitted. Criminals,
so-called economic refugees, those unable to support themselves,
those with AIDS, and those expected to be a drain on the
taxpayers will not be admitted. Sponsors of immigrants will be
required to deposit a substantial cash bond with the Government
for 10 years, to cover any costs should the sponsored immigrant
ever become a cost to taxpayers. In fact, those costing
taxpayers while not yet a citizen should be deported to their
country of origin.[37]

Note the part: "Criminals, {...} will not be admitted."

As a criminal immigrant, Mr. G would be the first deported from his
personal fascist state. To paraphrase Groucho Marx, William Grosvenor
would not live in a country which would have him as citizen...

If He Hates Canada Too, Why Doesn't He Leave?
---------------------------------------------

Oh, he has promised to:

Feel free to get back to me directly,should you wish more info
about the problems of Canada.I will be there just for a short
while longer,before I relocate with all my businesses.[36]

I will not allow any faggot-loving government to tell me whom
I should deal with, and sooner than allow these vermin, I am
closing down businesses.[38]

Professional, 56 years old wishes to emigrate/relocate.

Skills include professor of accounting & business management,
have owned many businesses around the world, could also teach
English.

Hold British passport,and would prefer relocating to country
where English spoken, such as Ireland,Central America, or
perhaps South America, or S.E.Asia?[39]

Sadly, although lots of people would gladly contribute to purchasing
him a one-way ticket to someplace <anyplace!> else, Mr. G is not a man
of his word. One theory is that his wife, who owns the house he lives
in, would cut off his allowance if he left, forcing Mr. G to find a
job.

He Doesn't Have A Job?
----------------------

While he likes to pretend to be an "international businessman", e.g.,
as on his homepage [40]:

The GROSVENOR INTERNATIONAL GROUP is a multinational group of
businesses operating worldwide, presently based in northern
Canada. Some of our prominent activities include:

INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF MANAGEMENT INC. does International
Management Consulting. It has done assignments in South East
Asia, including Malaysia, Indonesia and Taiwan.

GROSVENOR STAMP CO. is an international stamps dealer and
auction firm for stamps for collectors. (APS#D138099) We now
do LARGE TRADES / EXCHANGES with dealers and collectors
worldwide. As a service to collectors in countries where
dollars are scarce, we also offer COMPUTER PROGRAMS IN
EXCHANGE FOR STAMPS.

UNIQUE COMPUTER DISTRIBUTING has been an importer and dealer
of computers for more than 16 years.

William Grosvenor , P.Mgr., FIC, FIAA - C.E.O.
GROSVENOR INTERNATIONAL GROUP[40]

It turns out that all of Mr. G's businesses are run out of his wife's
house, a modest three-bedroom bungalow in the Dickensfield neighborhood
of Edmonton. Furthermore, with one exception, none of his "businesses"
have phones or can be found in any business directory [41]. (The phone
listing for his bookkeeping business appears to be the family number.)

Of course, Mr. G has an explanation for this:

I keep my businesses private, as the law permits,and it is none
of anyone's business how I operate, as long as I do so legally,
as I do.[43]

Another breakthrough from the "INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF MANAGEMENT
INC." (Mr. G's bookkeeping business): Stealth Marketing -- how better
to keep away those pesky potential customers?

To get an idea of the holdings of the "GROSVENOR INTERNATIONAL GROUP",
we can examine the case of the Motherboard Upgrade. Over the last
year or more, Grosvenor has been trying to trade an old parachute
for a new motherboard for his computer. Picking up the trail, we find:

November 5, 1995:

Will sell for best cash offer,or trade for something useful.
Items I am seeking include loaded Motherboard for DX100 or
Pentium; stamp collection;guns; or what offers?[44]

May 25, 1996:

Want Pentium 133 system or similar such as S86 system, IN
TRADE for items I have,including some extra high res scanners,
etc..[45]

August 12, 1996:

Am looking to TRADE some of my items for a fully featured
Motherboard. Looking for S86 - 120 or 150 Mh board, with 32
Mb RAM.[46]

November 7, 1996:

I collect stamps, coins, starting on guns, but open to proposals
such as good Motherboard with P166 or equivalent???[47]

You will notice that Grosvenor's requests seem to parallel developments
in the state of PC computing, starting with a request for a 486 DX100
motherboard, and currently up to a Pentium166. You will also notice
that "UNIQUE COMPUTER DISTRIBUTING", one of the "GROSVENOR INTERNATIONAL
GROUP" of companies, apparently only has one reasonably modern PC, and
is unable to spend a few hundred dollars to upgrade it.

When he's trying to hustle cheap motel rates, Grosvenor also claims to
be "President" of "NORTHSTAR TRAVEL".[41] For instance:

Have been looking,so far without success,for reasonably priced
- i.e.low cost clean motels,or/and B & B in Maine and New
Brunswick for August.This is in connection with a preliminary
exploratory trip,considering possibility for group tours of
seniors from Western Canada.

So far,low cost,according to mail received,is over US$100 a
day,up to $250.per day,per person.Out west we consider $20 to
$40 Canadian reasonable.[41]

$20 Canadian is about $15 American. This will give you a feel for the
financial acumen (!) of the "GROSVENOR INTERNATIONAL GROUP".

Grosvenor Is Not A Man Of His Word?
-----------------------------------

To put it mildly, yes. For example, take the case of Mr. G vs. the
Ghermezian brothers. The Ghermezian's company, Triple Five, develops
shopping malls, including the West Edmonton Mall and the Mall of America.
In the late 1980s, the Ghermezians also developed the ire of one
William Grosvenor.

What happened? As Forbes magazine recounted [25]:

Why does he do it? Grosvenor originally told FORBES that he
had been "swindled by Triple Five." But in a more recent
conversation, he said, "They got several lots rezoned so they
could build a lousy strip mall next to my house."

Of course, this put Grosvenor on the war path. In his words:

Alberta Report story last month quoted Grosvenor admitting he
intends "to use all means at my disposal anywhere in the world
to put the Ghermezians out of business."[26]

But wait, you're probably thinking to yourself. Last time you looked,
both West Edmonton Mall and Mall of America were still in business,
thriving, in fact. Why aren't the Ghermezians out of business yet?

Well, once Mr. G reached the Ghermezian's threshold for stupidity, they
took him to court, although they had some trouble getting him there:

After returning from West Germany last week, Grosvenor was
holed up in his home in Edmonton's Dickinsfield neighbourhood,
reportedly refusing service of the Triple Five gag order. The
company's lawyers were preparing to go to court again Monday
morning for an order allowing them to nail the injunction to
the door of Grosvenor's home, which is in fact owned by his
wife, Sario.[26]

After this point he caved-in completely, although, according to
Grosvenor,
he scared those wimpy billionaires right out of the courtroom:

An apology was requested, but the lawyers for the Jewish
Ghermezians refused to re-appear in court to finalise any
documents, so none was finalised.[48]

But what Mr. G calls their 'refusal' to re-appear was more due to
the Ghermezians having no need whatsoever to continue action against
him. A more complete story came from the Edmonton Journal:

William Grosvenor has been found in contempt of a civil court
order not to speak against Triple Five Corp. or interfere in
its business.

Justice Russel Dixon reprimanded Grosvenor, Thursday in Court
of Queen's Bench.

Grosvenor promised to cease and desist from further anti-Triple
Five communications, including any public references to
"Ghermezianville" - a term he used to describe this City.

Grosvenor also agreed to prepare an apology to Triple Five.[49]

The next time Grosvenor mouths off about the Ghermezians, he will face
a *second* contempt of court citation which no Judge is likely to find
amusing. Neither would Grosvenor, who'd probably be taking a lot of
long, warm prison showers after that.

In fact, there is no evidence that Mr. G has made any negative
statements about the Ghermezians since that time. So much for his
vow to put them out of business.

This episode led to international fame for Mr. G when Forbes magazine
labelled him a "roving fruitcake". [25]

"Roving Fruitcake"?
-------------------

Followed by an observation that "Grosvenor does make occasional forays
into sanity".[25] The diagnosis seems to be official, too. Alberta
Report dug up that:

Grosvenor, 48, has a criminal record for assault and extortion,
that he was diagnosed at Riverview Psychiatric Hospital in
British Columbia in 1973 as suffering from a paranoid
personality disorder, and that his harassment of the Ghermezians
is only the latest in a 20-year series of vendettas against
corporations and individuals, including leading figures of the
British Columbia legislature and judiciary.[26]

How Can I Tell If I'm Successfully Yanking Grosvenor's Chain?
-------------------------------------------------------------

It seems that of all the people he hates (and there are certainly a lot
of them), Grosvenor hates Jews the most. If you find he has corrupted
your name to make it sound more Jewish, you know you've got his working
neurons into Rapid Fire Mode.

So far the Grosvenor Kook-point contest winners are:

Ken McVay (aka "OyVay")
Jason Kodish (aka "Kaddish")
Tim Nye (aka "Neimann/Neiman/Neuman")
Cook (aka "Koch")
Tim Brown (aka "Bronstein")

(and more to be announced...)

What's Next?
------------

Eventually, this FAQ will contain a list of Grosvenor's contradictions
(such as the criminal Grosvenor demanding execution of all criminals,
the Grosvenor who hid his assets to "defeat" creditors demanding that
white collar criminals make full restitution to all their victims, etc.).

As you can imagine, however, this list will probably be longer than
the current FAQ. :-)

Anyway, onward and upward...

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[1] CyberFriends page at http://www.dare.com/frnd016/0160059.htm

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[25] "Will wonders never cease?", FORBES, September 4, 1989, Pg. 72.
By Joe Queenan. Available at:

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/grosvenor.william/background-
grosvenor

[26] "Master of Malice: The Ghermezians put an end to Bill Grosvenor's
'news tips'" ALBERTA REPORT, July 3, 1989, Pg. 19-20. By Tom
Philip and Glenn Kubish. Available at:

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[37] http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/acumen/acumen1.html

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[49] The Edmonton Journal, Fri 01 Dec 1989, page F7, "Man Pledges
not to speak anti-Triple Five"